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    February 18, 2009

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    Typ0

    The whole private hospital thing is a big issue. I know several people who have chosen to have their babies abroad because of this more intimate relationship with their doctors.

    Corinne

    Having your baby here just makes sense, as you so aptly point out. I had a very good experience and with Unimed (my health insurance) 3 days after I got home a nurse came to check up on me and make sure the baby was fine, help me with breastfeeding and such. It was a fantastic service!! The downside is the price of baby gear and products and the lack of babysitters (which you seem to have taken care of). Since expats don´t have the built-in Brazilian babysitters (extended family), that has been the hardest part of having the baby here for me.

    An American Girl

    Couldn't agree more! I'm actually looking forward to having a baby there and being able to relax, exercise and focus on our little one! I second a baby blog and might be creating one of my own! :)

    Anonymous

    I agree with most of your points.

    But more ultrasounds is not better - they are limited because they represent a risk for the fetus.

    Also you might be interested in a change Harper and his cronies are suggesting that might become law - that children born out of Canada (to Canadians) will not be able to pass on Canadian citizenship to THEIR children (your future grandchildren). My boys were boy outside of Canada and I think this is outrageous.

    Anonymous

    I agree with most of your points.

    But more ultrasounds is not better - they are limited because they represent a risk for the fetus.

    Also you might be interested in a change Harper and his cronies are suggesting that might become law - that children born out of Canada (to Canadians) will not be able to pass on Canadian citizenship to THEIR children (your future grandchildren). My boys were born outside of Canada and I think this is outrageous.

    Daily Rio Life

    Typ0 - yes it is really nice knowing that she will be there when I deliver!

    American Blog - Maybe we should team up on the baby blog! ?

    Anonymous - you might note that I mentioned I opted out of the last two ultrasounds. (For the same reasons). But still, it was nice to at least have the option, which is not the case back home, and no not because of the risk (which is very small, it's rather just that it might interfere with development) but lack of money/time/resources. As far as the law goes, it should not affect your kids as long as you or their children are not also born outside of Canada, and if that at the time happens to be the case, how much time are any of you really spending there?

    Mrs S

    Just to let you know, I love reading about all things baby in Brazil! I find it fascinating and I am happy to know that you feel completely safe having a baby there!

    And I think that you do a good job of balancing the blog!

    Canuck

    I meant risk as in possibly harming the baby. Interfering with development falls into that category doesn't it ?

    Your comment that "how much time are any of you really spending there? " seems rather flippant and poorly thought out ! It applies to you too ! Do you want people to point at you and say that you should have less rights as a Canadian because you are not living in Canada ?

    Daily Rio Life

    I think we were basically saying the same thing - which is why I pointed out that I had initially pointed out that I declined two of the ultrasounds offered to me, in case you missed that point.

    As far as the "how much time are any of you really spending there" comment goes - yes it potentially could apply to me, of course it could, which is why I am even bothering to comment on it. Though in my case, I think it would only be a problem under very exceptional circumstances. I don't think it is too much to ask for every other generation to be born in Canada in order for the family to retain total citizenship.

    People DO look at me and say I should have less rights as a Canadian because I don't live there. I no longer have access to the healthcare system or any other of the benefits taxpayers pay for. Nor should I - I am not there or currently contributing to Canadian society! Someday I likely will again and that will be a different story.

    I do have an opinion about people who live most of their lives outside of Canada without ever contributing to the society but then expect the privileges of being Canadian. For us this is a temporary thing and can hardly be compared to two consecutive generations being born elsewhere.

    I don't really see what all the fuss is about anyway - when have you ever heard of anyone from anywhere not being able to get Canadian citizenship... we're known for letting everyone in!

    Canuck

    Why every other generation ? Maybe your child doesn't deserve Canadian citizenship by your own logic, since he/she will be born outside of Canada.

    If you had to return to Canada now in order to give Canadian citizenship to your baby I doubt you would be happy about it.

    There are other ways of distinguishing between US and THEM which are a little better thought out. You seem more interested in denying citizenship than in safeguarding it for your grandchildren !

    Thankfully there are lots of us who are willing to kick up a fuss and not let this idiotic legislation pass.

    Daily Rio Life

    It's not a focus for me for several reasons:
    1) I don't fit the profile of who the government is trying to protect itself against.
    2) I don't think it is unreasonable for my child to have to have its kids in Canada since it will be born elsewhere. If that's the price to pay for citizenship, so be it. Sure, 25 years from now I might feel differently. Of course. But I do see the big picture here.

    I think it is good that Canada is cracking down on certain groups of people who are citizens of convenience. Sure, maybe some people think I am a citizen of convenience but living for a couple of years abroad somewhere is not the problem this law addresses. Perhaps, as you imply, this is not the best way to do it, and to distinguish these individuals - and hey I am open minded about that as I would imagine most people are - so I ask - what do you suggest?

    Canuck

    You do fit the profile, as you are giving birth to a baby outside of Canada.

    You and I are being lumped in with the citizens of convenience. I do not want myself nor my children and their children to be treated as inferior Canadians. It should be my right to pass on Canadian citizenship no matter where they are born.

    I cannot understand how you so easily give up this right (hey it's not you who would lose anything though - does that make it easier?). Is it a sacrifice you are making in order to limit the rights of the citizens of convenience ?

    I don't think that way. The government must limit the right of the foreigners without taking mine.

    Cat

    Hello,
    I think you have a very interesting blog! not many moms out there are blogging (well, you still have to be one). I'm going to move to rio this summer, my husband's already there, so I'm reading as much as I can find.
    Anyway, don't worry about ultrasounds, I had them once a month, both pregnancies (high risk), and both my kids are best in their classes, really bright kids.

    About the nationality issue: I think Canada is doing the right thing (as my own country Sweden, I live in Italy now and the kids have double nationality). Think about germany: 4th generations immigrants from turkey don't have the right to german citizenship, while 4th generations emigrants to Peru automatically get german citizenship, which means they have access to the whole EU, with practically no trace of german blood in them. If that's not crazy I don't know what is. Still a very difficult issue to discuss.

    Best regards, and in bocca al lupo with your pregnancy !
    You absolutely made the right decisions! Swedes are just the same, they think swedish health care is so much the best (which is not true of course), and that everybody else just comes to sweden to steal it from them! how childish.

    Daily Rio Life

    Hi Cat
    Thanks very much for your comment - if you need any specific info before your move, let me know!

    bona

    Hi, really nice blog.
    I plan to deliver my baby in brazil since her father is brazilian :) I just wonder how much does it cost for the hospital and eveything when you give birth by private hospital.
    Because I heard from some brazilian friends that it will be expensive since I don't have insurance.
    Thank you

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